If you are considering moving away from the 270 for recoil reasons, it’s important to realize that a 308 kicks about the same, and that by going to a lighter rifle you will undoubtedly feel more recoil. Above that recoil becomes increasingly intrusive. Thanks for your time. 1; 2 ... You can generally have a nice muzzle brake put on a rifle for about $150, and this should put the recoil to about .308 or maybe less. Must see data comparison! I have taken mule deer, elk, black bear, hog and antelope with mine and wouldn't give it up for anything. I'm sure this discussion has been had many times, but I would appreciate your thoughts! This round is a great combination between a flat trajectory and moderate recoil. It produces a fair amount of recoil -- enough … .270 Vs. .308. I … 6.5 Creedmoor vs 308 Recoil. I decided to look at ballistics comparing the 308, 270 and 6.5 creedmoor. Plain and simple, if you don’t enjoy your rifle, then you won’t shoot it! I'm looking for a bolt-action, all-around calibre, for target practice, and maybe eventually hunting. The .308 Winchester cartridge can be loaded to produce ballistics that equal or even exceed the .30-06 Springfield cartridge despite its smaller case. Something important to know when comparing the .270 vs .308 is that the .308 has seen a lot of military service, while the .270 is primarily a hunting round. New member, first post, so be gentle! None. I have recently gotten the bug for long range shooting. Do not forget that rifle weight is a crucial factor in the recoil equation, inversely proportional to recoil. This is a common question many hunters have, especially when considering a hunting rifle for younger hunters. The chart you posted has the .270 with a recoil factor of 162.6 The .308 with a recoil factor of 35.2 And the 30-06 with a recoil factor of 60.1 So, if the chart is correct, the .270 would have significantly more recoil. Recoil energy for 270 WSM in an 8 pound rifle is 19 lbs, much less load variability. The 6.5 Creedmoor has less recoil. There is a big difference in muzzle blast from a 20 inch to a 24 inch .270 Win, and that contributes to perceived recoil. Close. The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .270 Winchester vs .30-30 Winchester ammo rounds. MEL . No way could I just sit down with my .308 and shoot a 130 TTSX at 3000 fps or a 180 at 2600 and tell you which one I just fired. Posted by u/[deleted] 3 years ago. I am going to buy my wife her first rifle tomorrow and can't decide between the 270 win or the 308 win. Granted, recoil energy is highly relative; recoil force depends on grain weight and muzzle velocity as well as the weight of the rifle. Joined: Apr 14, 2005 Messages: 2,503 Location: Minneapolis, MN, USA. 1; 2; Next. If it were me I’d keep the 270 and focus on putting an animal or three on the ground with it. Two of the most well-known cartridges go head-to-head in this detailed article. 7mm-08 vs. .308 – Recoil. However, the boosted speed and energy requires more powder and longer action, resulting in a heavyweight gun and higher recoil. At first I was pretty set on getting a 308 win because the round seems so common, easy to find and lower recoil, but after reading some articles and watching some videos it seems the 308 might not be the best choice. J. However, the .308 180 grain is a heavy bullet with a high muzzle velocity so you will feel it as well. In conclusion, we are sure that the 6.5 Creedmoor vs. .308 Winchester debate is not going to go away any time soon. The .308 Winchester barrel has a longer lifespan. The power of the 308 comes with excessive recoil and that is a turnoff for many hunters. Increase the gun weight by, say, 25% and the recoil goes down by 25%. I estimate that fifteen foot pounds of free recoil energy and 10 fps of recoil velocity represent the approximate upper limit of the comfort level. However, time saw both these long-standing cartridges in the same arena and with a huge respective loyal user base. OP. Most people attest that .270 vs .30-06 favors the lighter round. Go. Remington’s parent case is actually .308 Winchester and its closely related .260 Remington is also based on a 308 cartridge. Let's compare two top quality deer hunting loads. I don't want a magnum calibre, and have narrowed it down to the above options. recoil from a .308 isnt that bad, i have a saiga in 7.62x39mm and anFal in .308 and the saiga definitly kicks harder. The shell casing was designed to ease case extraction and cartridge feeding in bolt action rifles as well as machine guns. The historical popularity of the .308 Winchester cartridge doesn’t mean it is free from problems. But between the .270 Winchester and the .280 Remington, which offers the best performance for the hunter? While this might not actually be deserved, it is not nearly as common to run across a .308 in the field. J. jesselnick OP. To tell the truth, the 6 lb ( unloaded ) Steyr seems to have less recoil than some heavy .308s I own. In the real world, firearms chambered for less powerful cartridges are typically built lighter than firearms chambered for more powerful cartridges. 1 of 2 Go to page. Woodsman. I switched to .270 win about 35 years ago, and have never regretted it. 25-06 vs 6.5 Creedmoor vs 270 Winchester: The Results Might Surprise You. The chart you posted has the .270 with a recoil factor of 162.6 The .308 with a recoil factor of 35.2 And the 30-06 with a recoil factor of 60.1 So, if the chart is correct, the .270 would have significantly more recoil. Around here, the .270 has a much better reputation for being a good all around choice ie; antelope, deer, bear, sheep and elk, than the .308. My shoulder just isn't nearly calibrated enough to sense a 5 ft/lb of recoil difference without shooting one and then the other first. Jump to Latest Follow 1 - 20 of 21 Posts. I would suggest reconsidering the need for long-range hunting (above 400 m / 450 yards). The average 12 ga Foster slug packs a lot more punch on the shooter's end than almost any .308 load I've shot, to include 190 SMKs. in this non-biased .308 Vs 30-06 review, you will come to know the differences of these 2 popular cartridges regarding size, ballistic, recoil, flexibility jesselnick. Reactions: Goatie. Austin tx. 16. Both BDL's. .270 Winchester VS .308 Winchester. Austin tx. Enjoy this article about the 6.5 Creedmoor vs 308 Winchester debate? The .270 is prone to having a much sharper kick than the .308. Recoil is also important because it determines, for how, how easy your rifle will be to shoot. This sounds like a good approach to me, and Tikka makes a very nice rifle. Joined Jul 7, 2010 Messages 158. A .308 with a 150 grain bullet compared to a .270 with a 130 grain bullet, the .308 will likely have more recoil. Well, a typical .308 Winchester load is a 150-180 grain bullet with a muzzle velocity of 2600-2800 fps. Therefore, I see no reason to shoot 150 grain bullets in the .270, unless you do not own a 30-06 or are just plain stubborn. Recoil from a lighter .308 rifle will be a lot snappier than your slug gun, but not enough to make up for the difference in ft/lbs of recoil. Mar 14, 2011 #1 I will first tell of my desires and inventory, then go on to my question. Make 260 Remington vs. 308 Test Fair. Please note, the following information reflects the estimated average ballistics for each caliber and does not pertain to … For one all rounder the 308 is better in Australia, there is a broader range of ammo available, the short action is a little lighter and quicker to operate, and it kicks a little less if you are taking multiple shots culling or in a comp. We might not be able to say which one is better, but we certainly learned a lot while trying to find out. I compared a 150-grain in the 308 Winchester against the 140-grain Core-Lokts in the 7mm-08 and 260 for two reasons. The bullets I compared in this video were not identical, but as close as I could come. Sewerman, Sep 19, 2005 #2. Father Knows Best Member. .308 Winchester Overview. All were Remington Core-Lokt, an extremely popular bullet in the deer woods. I have both, a heavy custom Mauser and a lithe little Steyr Model M Luxus Stutzen. I shot my buddy's Sako TRG .308 this past fall. Jul 7, 2010 #1 RemingtonShooter Well-Known Member . I have two favorite rifles, a .308 and .270. Posts: 248. There's been thousands of articles over the past 90 years or soon comparing the .270 and .30-06 so it's a too belabored topic. 270 vs 308 Recoil. Nosler provided the data used to compare the recoil of the cartridges (here and here). Now here’s where things get complicated: oftentimes recoil is not so much determined by the caliber itself as it … When choosing a rifle and trying to decide between these two chamberings, your purpose will be one thing that determines what you may want to choose. Thread starter Boomhower; Start date Mar 14, 2011; Boomhower Shoot, man, it's that dang ol' internet. Woodsman. One has its origins in the military while the other was manufactured for hunting. Having said that, I've fired all of those and can hardly tell the difference. By the numbers, according to the Chuck Hawks recoil table, an 8-lb. Both of these cartridges became popular in the shooting world because of their ballistic characteristics, especially the trajectory, and the low recoil while still can bring down medium and even larger sized game. A Good Problem to Have - .308 vs. .270 WSM. Reply. We hope that both new and old shooters found our article useful. I like the .270 for its flat shooting and hard hittting abilties over long range. .270 WSM vs .308 or .300WMS. 270 vs 30-06 Caliber comparison. Ballistics, velocity, trajectory, and energy data analysis. The longer you shoot, and the harder the rifle kicks, the more likely you are to flinch. Graphs and visuals can be filtered and changed by you. Posts: 248. 30-06 vs .308 vs .270. Save Share. Thread starter RemingtonShooter; Start date Jul 7, 2010; Help Support Long Range Hunting : Join the LRH Team or . In 1952, Winchester commercially released the .308 round along with chambering its Model 70 and Model 88 rifles for the cartridge. But it is louder. While a gun and the ammunition may be capable of sub-MOA accuracy, real-life hunting is not like shooting on a shooting stand. Let’s take a look at what makes them tick. In this cartridge comparison, we are going to take a look two cartridges, the 7mm-08 Rem and the .270 Win. Our calibers from .257-inch up to .338-inch have served us well for decades, but the .277-inch, 7mm, and .308-inch calibers have gotten the lion’s share of work from deer hunters. Both winchester using powermax bonded bullets, 130 grain for the 270 WSM and 150 for the 308. the 270 WSM starts out at 3000 fps while the 308 is barely above 2500. nice. The gun will be a ruger American which is about 6.5 lbs not scoped. Feb 23, 2018 #4 thinhorn_AK Senior Member. Please share it with your friends on Facebook and Twitter. It uses bullets from 100 to 150 grains, which can easily reach 2,900 and even 3000 frames per second. rifle in .270 generates 16.5 ft-lbs of recoil with a 130-grain load at 3,140 fps. I've always had a soft spot for the 270, kills well and doesn't recoil much, but once I sort of looked the chronograph data I've collected on both the 270 and the 7mm-08 over the past few years, something became clear to me: the 7-08 basically equals the 270 in velocity and energy if you are using the typical 22" 270 factory barrel. When going after bigger game with shots within 250 yards, the .308 is a fantastic choice. I think this is where we begin to make our biggest distinctions between the rounds. If you dive into the historical developments of the 6.5 Creedmoor round vs the 7mm-08, you will notice how the cartridges are somehow related to .308 Winchester. If I was just game hunting though I would get the 270 for … Joined: Feb 2013. Recoil energy for 308 in an 8 pound rifle is 16-17lbs depending on load. And its recoil is more manageable than that of the .30-06. 30-06 vs .308 vs .270. 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