The .300 Win mag would be the cheapest of the bunch to get into as cases are cheaper. JavaScript is disabled. That said, RL17 is the only powder you'll come close to 3200 fps with a 180 bullet in the WSM. and I love it. I also read some where that the .300 Win. Still my choice would be none of the above! I wouldn't consider any of the three, but head strait to a .300 WBY mag, or a .300 Ackley. It just depends. You must log in or register to reply here. With a variety of bullets from most of the prominent mfg's in weights including, 140, 150, 160, 168, 180 and now 195. More. My Son in law shoots a Custom 300 win.and 215 bergers . My wife shoots a 300 ultra lss ( no brake ) and 180 Coreloks . It was made for short action rifles in hunting conditions, to make a rifle shorter and handier, as well as lighter. The .300 Ultra Mag can fire the same weight bullet approximately 200-300fps faster than the .300 Win Mag. The roy and 300 wsm are great rounds but I'll take my 300 win(long) and 300 rum all day, any day. Selection of .300 Win.Mag. For me it would. Gun Parts - Stocks, Barrels, Actions, etc. Not the best brass available but you can work with it. The short action Remington looks to be a fairly good case design, and also very efficient. my choice would be the .300 Weatherby seven days a week and twice on Sunday. While some of the more modern cartridges have begun to outperform .300 Win Mag, it has retained its popularity because of the number of available weapons and how affordable the ammunition is. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. If the Ultra mag was a great round we'd see it in use at the 1000 yard meets. It was found that when comparing a .30-30 vs .30-06 cartridge, the former had more recoil than the latter. I am a traveling madical technologist and would like to purchase a rifle that may cover a variety of wild game across the U.S. You are using an out of date browser. Of all these rounds it's common knowledge that the Norma mag thru the .300 WBY are by far the most accurate in very long distance shooting. Easy enough to do. They all are pretty good with sub 200 grain bullets, but when you start talking 220 grain and bigger bullets the Weatherby moves up to another level. Why? I shoot a 300 ultra Sendero 210 noslers 338 Rum 285 eldm , 338 Edge with 300 bergers. for ballistics wise the 300. weatherby mag out performs them, then the 300. win mag and then the 30-06. The .300 Weatherby Magnum is a fast, hard-hitting cartridge, driving a 180-grain bullet to a muzzle velocity of 3250 fps, for over 4,000 ft.-lbs. The sendero will do the same. All the Critters dont seem to care what we shoot they just seem to drop ! 300.wsm vs. 300 rem ultra mag. Mag. The .300 Ultra Mag is known for lots of power along with minimal bullet drop and wind drift at extended range. The .300 WSM is fast, along the lines of the .300H&H, maybe a tad faster. by Philip Massaro - Friday, March 9, 2018. The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .300 Weatherby Magnum vs .300 WSM Winchester Short Magnum ammo rounds. Home / Product Caliber / 300 Win. Posts: 24. If you seeking special discount you may need to searching when special time come or holidays. It hurts a bit to write this particular comparison, because I’m really partial to the .300 WBY. You are using an out of date browser. I prefer the .300 Win.Mag. Thanks for the great side-by-side comparison, David. Showing 1–16 of 24 results ... Mark V® Ultra Lightweight. But once again I'd start with a .300WSM, or do a low free bore chamber in the WBY (all will have free bore in a factory barrel!). Any thoughts. 6. You must log in or register to reply here. You can not go wrong with any of them. is preference and range. It may not display this or other websites correctly. 700 with HS 2000 stock. Thanks. Rated 4.98 out of 5 $ 2,300.00 – $ 2,500.00 Select options; ... Weatherby Customer Service representatives are available to assist you: Monday through Friday Of the 3 cartridges, I would pick the RUM for long range work for reasons already stated. The .300 Ackley, .300 Jarrett, and even the Baer are all WBY mag clones in the end. While I don’t have access to the official sales numbers, according to Weatherby, Roy’s .300 Weatherby Magnum is the most popular of the bunch. The .300 Winchester Magnum—that belted affair based on a shortened Holland and Holland case—was released in 1963 as the last in a quartet of cartridges that redefined magnum performance to … Head to Head: .300 Win. 3,814 Posts . now what we see here is that when the barrel lengths are somewhat close to being equal the only thing that's happening is making Hogdons and AA richer! The .300 Win Mag might be inferior in performance and power to the .300 Weatherby Magnum and Remington Ultra Magnum, but it is still certainly capable of bringing down elk, moose, bear, and bighorn sheep. As you can see, 6.5 Creedmoor is generally much cheaper than .300 Win Mag. When I decided to get a .300 I thought it would be a Win. .300 Weatherby Magnum vs. Hornady .300 PRC. Nothing wrong at all with the 300 Wby, 300 Ackley or 300 Jarrett but I think he is looking to get into a factory rifle first so that eliminates all but the 300 Wby. Mag. It is my little gun and usually gets the call for antelope, but my 338 rum is my go to gun and the 300 rum is my backup. Long range hunters and experienced hunters taking Elk and Moose at longer ranges may appreciate and require the better terminal performance of the 300 Win Mag. The 300 WSM will be the easiest to find ammo for. Cost of ammo is quite a bit cheaper. Ballistic experts compare recoil of different cartridges. Plus they have by far the best shoulder neck design (throw the WSM in that mix as well). .30-06 is an extremely old round. Using a fat, 404 Jeffery case 2.850" long with the 30-degree shoulder pushed well forward, Remington engineers were able to beat the case capacity of the 300 Wby. The Contestants. When comparing a standard .300 WSM vs .300 Win Mag, it was proved that the .300 win magnum had a higher recoil but could deliver bullets at a very high speed. Mostly for sheep, deer and elk. Mag. Its in 300RUM, I love it as well. Go with the Remington RUM, if the other two do not shoot, your pretty much screwed as far as rebuilding. The ? So, the .300 Win Mag is much more powerful, has a much flatter trajectory, and has significantly more recoil than the .308. Instead it's the WSM, Ackley and the WBY mags. I'm not a fan of belted cartridges but that's just me. Mag 300 Win. History Based on the .300 H&H case blown out to maximum capacity, the .300 Weatherby Magnum was introduced by Roy Weatherby in 1944. The Ackley and Jarrett can easily be formed from either necking up 7mm STW brass, or necking down 8mm mag brass. Killing Elk out to 1000 yards with a 300 WM, Day pack with ability to pack animal out/convert to backcountry backpack, I think I just built my favorite hunting rifle. Just my .02. and 13% more capacity than the .300 Weatherby Mag. That being said, I have a rum that is a semi custom gun with a factory tube and it is very easy to load for and easy to shoot. A. With the advent of newer slower burning powders, the 300 win, 300 wby and 300 rum really aren't that far apart with the slight edge going to the 300 rum with very heavy bullets. That power comes at the expense of lots of recoil though. vs. .300 WSM. With 98 gr of Retumbo and 180 E-Tips I can get 3400 fps. Just picked up some 230 bergers for the 300 Rum . It was for this reason that I purchased the Weatherby Mark V 6.5-300. The ultra mag beside burning a bunch more powder has the issue of the T.P. 300 Win Mag vs 308. It is also one of the most popular rounds for reloading, due to the number of projectiles and amount of brass available. Still you could make Norma cases out of Win mag brass! Which of these calibers would be the better round? I'd go with a .308 Norma mag, or an 8mm Remington mag case necked down to .308 to give me something very close to a .300 Ackley; which by far is the best of all the big three hundred mags. However, it is also worth mentioning that there are a much greater number of .300 Win Mag ammunition choices available. Please note, the following information reflects the estimated average ballistics for each caliber and does not pertain to a particular manufactu So a .300 Weatherby Magnum round exits the barrel with kinetic energy equal to the energy required for linear vertical displacement of 4070 pounds through a one foot distance, while a .300 Winchester Magnum round exiting the barrel has energy equal to the amount required to displace 3520 pounds over the same one foot distance. The difference between the two averages remains just about constant as the rounds move downrange to the 500-yard mark where the averages for the WM and WSM are 58.2lb/f.s and 22.3lb/f.s respectively. Sendero. 300 Win Mag Specs. Accuracey wise, the .300WSM is very good, but so are the Ackley, Jarrett, and WBY mags. .300 Win Mag is a magnum rifle cartridge that was introduced by Winchester in 1953. Barrel wise the Weatherby and it's clones are by far the best. What we see is very diminishing returns for as much as 33% more powder in the big cased mags. Get a stainless model rifle. Lots of recoil, if that is a factor for you, lots of noise, lots of cost... and the majority of people shooting these big 300's don't 'really' need one. I am looking for a powerfull, flat shooting rifle that will be able to cover a variety of situations and wild game. Most shooting would be no longer that 700 yards. Maybe now, but not for the first two or three years the round was out there. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I have tested, owned, built and shot many 7 rem mags, 7mm-300 win mags, a few 7 stw's, a 7 RUM or two and others in the .284 family. by 13 percent and the Win. Another vote for the RUM....Go with the non-belted case, just seems a bit more 21st century. But for new hunters: 308, every damn day of the week. I have been really happy with both. * .300 Win mag will do 2900fps using 68.6 grains of 4831 and a 25" barrel * .300 WBY mag will do 3100 fps using 75.7 grains of 4831 in a 26" barrel * .300 Ultra mag will do 3200 fps using 92.3 grains of H1000 and a 26" barrel * 30/.378 will do 3200 using 114 grains of 8700 an a 28" barrel I know a lot of guys that went thru the Ultra mag thing, and few if any could really make it group as well as they wanted. The parent cartridge of .300 Win Mag is .375 H&H Magnum. Mag. I really love my 300 win(long) in my browning a-bolt, but the rum has around a 10% edge in raw power and if you can learn the rifle well enough it'll punch 1" groups at 200 yards all day in a non-braked sporter. Merely from the stand point of power. Participant. I'd imagine my 230 Berger Norma load is somewhere closer to 120 fps and 10 grains more powder than a WM with same bullet and powder. The .308 Norma mag just steps out and says "I can!" Of the 3 rifles, the Sendero is definitely the best LR platform. I am kicking around the idea of a long range rifle in a Browning X-Bolt Long Range Hunter carbon fiber in 300 Win or Remington Sendero II in 300 Rum or a 30-378 Weatherby in a Mark V Carbon fiber. Base of the Bluemountains aka Gods Country, http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f25/nib-ss-sub-moa-weatherby-vanguard-300-wby-mag-110594/, Killing Elk out to 1000 yards with a 300 WM, Day pack with ability to pack animal out/convert to backcountry backpack, I think I just built my favorite hunting rifle. I’d go with the .300 Wby as a fellow handloader you know you can taylor a load to fit your needs. Although the case design of the Weatherby was entirely different from the .300 H&H, enabling head spacing at the shoulder, Weatherby retained the belt at the case head, resulting in a very successful marketing ploy. However, like the .300 Win. SUBSCRIBE. Calculations were corrected to standard temperature (59F/15C) and … I love my .300rum but if my limit was 700yds I would consider the wsm due to the availability of better quality brass. jaymon. The .300 WBY brass is a go from the start. Remington produced the 300 Win Mag in 1999 and this is also the first cartridge of the 30-caliber Still if your somebody like Dan Lilja (a fine gentleman I might add) this means little. Mag., it’s got some pretty outdated design characteristics. Joined Dec 30, 2014 Messages 3,617. have long felt that the order should be .300WSM, .308 Norma mag, and then the .300 WBY mag. On game performance is impressive with either one! Also have a Rem. I have also tested a variety of 30 cals, 300 win mag, 300 rum, 30-378, 30 Lapua, and so on. The .300 Win Mag rounds have an average of 80.0lb/f.s while the .300 Win Mag has an average of 77.12lb/f.s. All three are awesome rounds in their own right. 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