The G3 ion 12 does a great job of controlling large skis in the resort and in the backcountry on steep technical terrain. I’ll check with G3 and add a line to the template. ION LT, 10 and 12 all have same screw pattern, I recall ION demo binding has a longer pattern at the heel. The anodized aluminum is gorgeous. I measure the toe pin centers as being about 21mm in front of (toward the ski tip) from the rear set of screw holes on the toe piece. ION Crampon Connector - Adapter kit for attaching G3 ION ski crampons. Jail, the heel holes are optional in that you can adjust the binding heel a bit forward or back so when you’re boot is in, the binding heel falls on the ski in such a way as to prevent overlap. I’m checking on that to be sure, but close enough for estimating a comparo. Or are you asking how ION LT compares to ION 10-12 ? It’s like driving a European motorway at 120 MPH with tires that are rated for 90 MPH, then complaining when you get a blowout and end up doing sheet time. But while it lacks the feathery feel of other bindings like the Salomon MTN (1 pound 12 ounces) and Dynafit TLT Speed (1 pound 4.7 ounces), the Ion 12 makes up for it in the features department. OPERATING INSTRUCTIONS V 7.3 ... EGO ‘06/’07/’08 Fusion ‘7/’8 Intimidator 2k4/’05/’06 ION®/SP8/ MINI Proto Matrix ‘07/’08 Proto Rail Proto SLG Shocker SFT/NXT G3/IQ Seventh Element, Inc . Jigarex Mounting Plates With help from many of the members of the Teton Gravity Research message boards, Jon maintains a set of paper templates for mounting bindings to skis. Lou, Thanks appreciate the reply! You can likely squeeze another mm or two. English (US) 15-Apr-2020 5552 kB. This way we will know how the boot will fit into equation. A small square (or an experienced set of eyeballs) can help, but I noticed that I ended up moving the heel piece about 1.5mm from where I thought it would end up, so the 15mm number is nominal and not absolute. BTW, in case you missed the memo (grin), the technique for DIY mounting using this sorts of templates is to snap your boot into the toe unit, set toe unit on ski with boot lined up with ski mounting mark, mark hole positions, then match template to the hole positions to set for/aft position. I hawe a problem with the g3 ION. It’s close enough and when doing any mount I’ve found there is always a bit of fiddling, as you mentioned, from tolerances and other things. Perhaps Cam Shute can comment, but I think this is wise treatment of any equipment. Since I transferred your template to my own CAD drawing (moi? The shim should fit mounting plate (8) from the rear/tail end of the heel snugly between the binding and the boot. Sold in pairs. After drilling holes, we’d recommend a slight countersink of the screw hole in the ski to compensate for volcanoing. The difference is primarily in the DIN settings and price, with the ION 12 offer a DIN of 5-12 and costing $550 (the binding we tested in our review) and the ION 10 offering a DIN 4-10 and costing $500. Mounting adaptor plate allows the G3 ION Crampon to be mounted on the ION binding, or independently from the binding. As for the heel unit, let me repeat that they have enough fore/aft adjustment to almost always be able to locate so you’d get no screw hole overlap. I wasn’t testing a side release when the plate popped loose. The avalanche followed as he rode away. The G3 Ion 10 Binding is one of the few alpine touring bindings that weighs around a pound and still provides DIN settings suitable for rowdy-but-safe ski sessions in the backcountry. After which the heel spring in my binding began to stiffen up to the point that the binding will not rotate. Additionally, there may be a Scarpa in my future and its BSL would be 305mm. These lightweight, free-pivoting crampon help you set an edge and travel with greater efficiency, and they mount independently of your bindings for easy on-the-fly installation and removal. I’m trying to mount the Fritischi Scout and noticed the hole pattern is different than the Freeride. For the 2015/16 season, G3 came out with the ION LT 12 which is a brake-less model that runs around 8 ounces lighter than the ION 12. You can easily be off by a mm or two due the challenge of eyeballing the slope of the boot’s heel and its contact point with the heel unit. My take and publishing endeavors are most certainly not perfect! G3 ZED Mounting Instructions. Additionally, it appears as if the forward pressure spring compresses and stretches as you adjust the binding for boot length. Eaton 9395 UPS (225_300 kVA) Single-Feed Kit Installation Instructions. Don’t obsess, if for example a pair of holes is .5 mm off, that’s only .25 mm per hole, easily within the variations caused by hand drilling. The reason is, that you need to understand how the boot’s heel butts up against the heel piece, and exactly where it contacts the heel piece. Period. I would think no, but I’ll defer to those with more experience. January.10.2019 . Lou, thanx. My guess is that the default heel screw holes for Plum vs ION has no overlap due to the above factors. The relationship between the boot heel and the screw holes will change if you’re trying to favor one end of the binding’s adjustment over the center. ON THE OTHER HAND, a bit of forcing products outside their envelop is indeed what drives innovation. I’m going to opt for a conservative approach, by shooting to mount the binding so the heel ends up in the middle of its range. Waterproof white wood glue is fine for sealing the holes, though we recommend epoxy that can be reversed by heating. Jail, if you download both templates, you should be able to figure out the relationship, just figure boot position with ION is boot toe tech fittings are midway between the front pairs of holes. English (US) 22-Jul-2010 ... Samsung lithium-ion battery 128S installation manual for end customer. Five minute epoxy is said to be brittle, with one-hour versions being better, best being “flexible” epoxy such as Hardman Orange. Lou. If you want to play around with ION mount pattern (or mount IONs once they’re available), here is the link to our WildSnow ION paper mounting template. Weight (single) 358 g / 12.6 oz (single, no leash) Awards. 1 of 1 images. For those of you concerned about how wide your binding mount pattern is, note that ION is significantly 10 mm wider at the toe, and insignificantly wider at the heel. I used to use Microsoft Word Draw for templates, now I’m all over the map as I’ve sworn off Microsoft as much as possible. http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php/270874-G3-ION-tech-binding/page8, I’m not sure what he’s trying to accomplish with the template on page 6 of this thread. Otherwise while inserting or removing the stainless steel screws you can damage or even break them. Designed and Developed by WildSnow, Naxo Backcountry Skiing Bindings â Info Index, Silvretta Pure Backcountry Skiing Bindings â Info Index, Fritschi Backcountry Skiing Bindings â Info Index, Naxo randonnee alpine touring AT ski binding FAQ, Dynafit Binding Frequently Asked Questions FAQ. Now you can pick the ION that best suits your ski style. G2 to G3 Upgrade/Installation Instructions Addendum to the ICOM G3 Installation Procedures nj6n 2019-07-25 Backup File: K6VO-g2-backup.tgz has been sent to remote server for G3 upgrade process. Earlier models may be 39.5 mm wide at the toe, this template is intended to match the latest bindings, easy to check by setting your binding on the template and seeing how the holes line up with marks on template. My friend has the same issue developing in her binding. The paper template looks a little bit off (1 mm) in the toe widths. P.S., ION is of course too heavy for me. As far as locating a heel line on the template ⦠well, it depends. Happy winter! I’ve learned to watch out for hands getting pinched, and the heel lifters get flipped once in a while while breaking trail or doing kick turns. Qualified orders eligible for FREE S&H and FREE RETURNS. I am always amazed at how you deal with the testy folks. Updated in what way? The G3 OEM stainless steel screws are weak, in skis with metal top sheet or metal binding reinforcement plate you use a 9.5 mm long ski drilling bit, at 4.1 mm diameter. Maybe I was tired. 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G3 Zed Operating Instructions. More. The base plate of the binding is also changed slightly. G3 Ion Mounting Instructions. To be nice to G3 I’ll do a “real use review” but it’s rather funny to think that for a change I don’t have that much to blather about (grin), they seem to be a very mature product, you get the feeling G3, after some lessons learned, was going to get a binding out there that didn’t require writers to sort out issues, but rather just go out and use to get some vertical and have fun. You have a link to a paper template? It’s so you can quickly figure out if screw holes will overlap with an existing binding mount, or even doing a really fast mounting job. Compatible with the ION Crampon for icy ascents; Specifications. I think these would come in handy for snowboarders. Me, there is no standard measurement between toe and heel (though I’d imagine the G3 mechanical mounting jig will work to some arbitrary standard that probably will place the heel’s boot length adjust midway in the range), you simply mount it using the boot as a gauge for position of binding on ski. I have an ION binding here, but it’s difficult to exactly measure the toe pins position as compared to the screw positions. Otherwise while inserting or removing the stainless steel screws you can damage or even break them. Using my trusty dial indicator, I measured approximately .885″ of total length adjustment (22.5mm) in the heel pieces. BUY G3 ION Mounting Screw Kit. Lou. Lots of armchair quarterbacks telling how a product could be better and then the group complaining about a race boot not being stiff enough for their freeriding. I’ll admit I’m fed up at times with people trying to force ski products to do what they’re not designed for. My eyes are too blurry from all of this measuring tonight ð, Shew! I’m going to compensate by punching off from center by .2-.4mm. G3 ION tech ski binding, based on the standard tech binding but with many small changes and definitely a different screw mounting pattern. With lower release values than the Ion 12, this 4-10 version of the Ion is ideal for the lighter, less-aggressive skier who doesn't need the extra retention. How to Adjust & Set Up G3 ION Bindings Watch this video for tips on how to easily adjust the boot length and release values for your G3 ION touring bindings, as well as an introduction to G3 ION crampons and crampon adapters. I am pretty excited to see more competition for dynafit. I’ve done a bunch of “free form” mounting in the past and was trying to avoid that. I have a pair of rossi Sin 7s that had 22 Designs vice bindings on them. Open toe unit jaws by pressing down on toe lever. Ease of Use. More. Same with heel. Another thing to remember is that the ION has no tech gap at the heel. For this reason, I backed off perhaps an extra 1mm when measuring the adjustment range, to not push the forward adjustment point to its absolute minimum (thereby reducing potential wear on the catch). This website uses cookies for various purposes, including enhancing your website experience. This was a conservative measurement. Speed Radical and ION LT screw patterns are different, with care you could do a swap by drilling a new set of holes. Included with ION crampons, the kit can also be mounted flat to attach them to any ski. The innovation right now in alpine touring is staggering and I applaud the manufacturers for the incredible design work that is being done. One minor problem I had while working on the bench and removing the boot … I twisted the boot a bit (as you would when exiting the binding), and I popped the heel slider off. 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